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I can't believe he did an interview with Palumbo. I want to see a debate between him and priest lmao. Priest calling him a brown turd. :rofl:

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Clinical journals are beginning to report issues that bodybuilders have been investigating for generations. Ironically, there is now support for many of the dietary, training and drug protocols developed through years of “unsophisticated” experimentation and observation. In fact, aside from the extremes practiced by fetishists and professionals, the experiences of physique and performance enthusiasts are being incorporated into clinical practice, such as the use of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG), Clomid and aromatase inhibitors during post-cycle recovery (or to improve fertility).

Experienced anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) users are well aware that enhanced gains can be achieved by combining two or more AAS in a cycle. This practice, called stacking, allows for greater stimulation of muscle hypertrophy and/or strength, while balancing certain side effects. These may include estrogenic excess via aromatization, water retention, hair loss, sexual side effects, mood and sleep disruption, and joint pain. One of the most popular stacks is Deca (nandrolone decanoate) and testosterone enanthate. Previously, Deca and Dianabol (methandrostenolone) was king, but the high prevalence of drug-induced liver injury has deterred many health-conscious AAS users away from oral AAS.

A recent paper discussed the adjunct use of nandrolone as a “counterbalance” to the androgenic potential of testosterone.1 Nandrolone is actually more androgenic than testosterone, but in sexual glands, hair follicles and the brain, it is the metabolite of these two hormones that matter. Testosterone converts into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) via the enzyme 5-alpha reductase in the prostate, hair follicle and many regions of the brain. DHT is many times (roughly five to 10 times) more potent as an ANDROGEN (not an anabolic) than testosterone. This results in sex hormone-sensitive tissues exhibiting pathologic changes when testosterone is elevated, such as during an anabolic cycle, including the use of testosterone esters or androgenic AAS (e.g., Dianabol). Nandrolone is actually a more androgenic AAS than testosterone, but when converted by the 5-alpha reductase enzyme in the relevant tissues, it converts into dihydronandrolone (DHN)— which is much less androgenic than testosterone, and far less than DHT. The authors rightly note that this makes it possible to provide a more muscle-specific benefit and potent anabolic effect via hormone replacement therapy, while reducing the advent of adverse effects (e.g., baldness, prostate enlargement and mood changes). In other words, nandrolone would aid in building muscle and lean mass, while reducing hair loss and prostate growth that would arise with the use of a higher dose of testosterone— to achieve the same gains in muscle and lean mass.

It was noted, from the experiences of recreational users, that using nandrolone without an androgenic steroid can result in erectile dysfunction. Further, the prolonged suppression of natural tesostosterone production was also discussed briefly. There were some misstatements in the article, and it was incomplete, but seeing the topic addressed in a medical journal offers promise of greater acceptance of, or at least interest in, field-proven practices developed over the decades of AAS-enhanced bodybuilding and sports.

Reference:

1. Pan MM, Kovac JR. Beyond testosterone cypionate: evidence behind the use of nandrolone in male health and wellness. Transl Androl Urol 2016;5:213-9

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Steroid With the Least Side Effects?

Q: I have not taken steroids yet, but I see friends using them and making great gains. I have decided I don't want to stay natural forever. I want to try steroids at least one time. But I am not sure what to buy for my first cycle. What I really want to know is, what steroid has the least side effects? I’m a 25-year-old male with seven years training.

The answer to this question really depends on what you mean by side effects. As you likely know, there are many potential areas of concern here. In my experience, people are generally focused on one of several specific things. With this in mind, I’ll break down my personal nonmedical opinions in these key areas.

Balding: I’d say I get more questions from men concerned about losing their hair than about any other side effect. Most guys get into anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS) with an interest on improving their aesthetics. This usually doesn’t involve a desire to trade hair for muscles, of course. The bad news is that if you are genetically prone to hair loss, ALL anabolic steroids can potentially accelerate the process. It is mediated by the same receptor that controls muscle growth, after all. Some drugs are milder than others, though. Nandrolone, oxandrolone and methenolone come to mind. But none are benign in this regard. The good news is that if you are NOT genetically prone to hair loss, AAS use is unlikely to give you a head like Bruce Willis. Figuring out if you have similar “head genetics” as Mr. Willis is a more complex discussion I’ll leave for another time.

Gyno: Gynecomastia is another cosmetic issue, but like hair loss, scares a lot of people. Most men don’t want to grow breasts. Those who do, I suspect try to find more efficient means. This side effect is specifically linked to a steroid’s level of estrogenicity. Testosterone, Anadrol and Dianabol are the biggest offenders here. Many other AAS can’t convert or act as an estrogen, though— such as Anavar, Primobolan and Winstrol. Others still can convert to estrogen, but are still generally milder, like Equipoise and nandrolone. And then you have a collection of modern anti-estrogens and aromatase inhibitors, which can be used to mitigate the issue of estrogen quite well. With this side effect, drug choice is everything.

Liver: Hepatotoxicity is a fancy word for liver toxicity. Most of us have heard about those rare cases where AAS abuse has led to serious issues with liver damage or cancer. The important thing to know here is that this side effect is largely related to oral anabolic steroids … drugs that have been chemically modified to survive first-pass metabolism through the liver. Drugs like Anadrol, Anavar, Dbol and Winstrol stand out here. A few orals aren’t really liver toxic, like Andriol and Primobolan. But these are also very weak, and not commonly used. In comparison, injectable AAS like testosterone, nandrolone, boldenone and methenolone are quite strong, and not regarded as appreciably liver toxic.

Cardiovascular: Steroids can negatively influence your cholesterol values, blood pressure and several other risk factors for cardiovascular disease. This is a risk inherent with AAS abuse, though some drugs are better or worse than others. The testosterones tend to be the least troublesome here, as they provide both androgens and estrogens to the body. The latter sex steroids are important to HDL (good) cholesterol management in both men and women. The most problematic tend to be the orals. Any AAS that displays appreciable hepatotoxicity is likely to also be pretty harsh on your hepatic cholesterol management, as well as other cardiovascular disease risk factors.

There you have my quick rundown of common areas of concern. Of course, these side effects are not exclusive, and all nonmedical AAS use carries with it measurable risk. With that stated, I hope you found the information helpful. As I commonly recommend to readers, it is best to be slow and careful in your decisions, and always make sure health stays as one of your primary concerns.

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Superdrol (Methyldrostanolone)

(Methyldrostanolone)

Superdrol is an anabolic steroid that carries a bit of a unique history compared to many anabolic steroids. Superdrol itself is merely a brand name of an over the counter anabolic steroid sold as a pro hormone or nutritional supplement by Anabolic Extreme. While an anabolic steroid, the active hormone Methyldrostanolone had never been placed on the controlled substance list in the U.S. and in 2005 it would hit the shelves of most major supplement companies and enjoyed massive success. However, in 2006 due to tremendous FDA pressure Superdrol would be discontinued. While the Superdrol brand was short lived, over the counter and black market Methyldrostanolone would continue to appear around the world until mid-2012. In 2012 Methyldrostanolone would be placed on the U.S. controlled substance list and classified as a Schedule III controlled substance along with all anabolic steroids.

Methyldrostanolone or Superdrol, while it did not appear on the market until 2005 is not a new anabolic steroid. Syntex first created the Methyldrostanolone hormone in 1959 at the same time as Drostanolone (Masteron) and Oxymetholone (Anadrol). However, the Methyldrostanolone hormone never received a pharmaceutical push like the other two hormones. The exception would be its inclusion in Dimethazine; a compound that metabolically dissolved and converted to Methyldrostanolone post administration. As we dive into the Superdrol compound, as you may have already guessed we will find it is very similar to Drostanolone or the popular anabolic steroid Masteron.

Superdrol Functions & Traits:

Superdrol is an anabolic androgenic steroid comprised of the active steroidal hormone Methyldrostanolone. This is a dihydrotestosterone (DHT) derived anabolic steroid or more specifically a structurally altered form of Drostanolone. Superdrol is simply the Drostanolone hormone with an added methyl group at the 17th carbon position that allows the hormone to survive oral ingestion and officially classifies it as a C17-alpha alkylated (C17-aa) anabolic steroid. It also carries an added methyl group at the carbon two position, which greatly increases its anabolic power. These slight alterations will also reduce Superdrol’s androgenicity compared to Masteron, which isn’t all that androgenic to begin with.

On a structural basis, Superdrol carries an anabolic rating of 400; nearly four times that of Masteron. It will also carry an androgenic rating of 20, which is extremely mild. This is a non-aromatizing anabolic steroid carrying no estrogenic or progesterone activity.

When looking at the traits of Superdrol, there is nothing all that remarkable about this steroid compared to many others. The mere fact that it enjoyed years of grey legality is truly the only remarkable attribute. This isn’t to take away from the steroid’s ability, but is merely stated to clear up any confusion or misguided notions. Superdrol will notably enhance protein synthesis and nitrogen retention. Protein synthesis refers to the rate by which cells build proteins and nitrogen represents a key component in muscle tissue composition. The enhancement in both areas promotes a stronger anabolic atmosphere enabling the individual to build more lean tissue or preserve it during a calorie restricted state. The hormone will also significantly increase red blood cell count providing greater muscular endurance. This is due to red blood cells being responsible for carrying oxygen to and through the blood and the increase in cells providing greater blood oxygenation.

Effects of Superdrol:

When looking at the effects of Superdrol, the best way to describe the steroid as is a total body transforming product. Through its marketing campaign it was touted as being a more powerful mass builder than Anadrol, hence the name Superdrol; a play on words “Super Anadrol.” However, athletes who have used both will attest the effects of Superdrol will in no way lead to mass gains even comparable to Anadrol. However, significant gains in lean tissue can be made so as long as adequate calories are consumed. A gain of 5-10lbs is more than possible and will not be accompanied by the water retention Anadrol often brings. The individual should also find he is able to make cleaner off-season gains due to the effects of Superdrol promoting a stronger metabolism. This is not to say body fat cannot be gained, but you should be able to make better use of your caloric surplus when Superdrol is in play.

The effects of Superdrol can also be very beneficial to the dieting athlete as a cutting steroid. This compound will greatly preserve lean tissue during a caloric deficit, a key component to successful dieting. In order to lose body fat we must burn more calories than we consume. This puts lean tissue at risk as the body will take what it needs to meet its energy demands from anywhere it can get it. Due to the body’s natural survival instinct, it will often take energy from muscle tissue rather than body fat. The key to successful dieting is ensuring that not only is fat lost but the lean tissue we hold is preserved. The effects of Superdrol will ensure this goal is met. Through the effects of Superdrol the individual should also notice greatly improved conditioning in terms of a dryer, harder look. This isn’t all that surprising when we consider this steroid is in many ways oral Masteron, a steroid well known for promoting such traits.

Regardless of your reason for use, bulking or cutting, the effects of Superdrol will improve recovery and muscular endurance. We cannot call it the strongest steroid in this regard but the improvements will be significant, and as with all steroids the most important. You will not tire out as fast allowing for work to be done at a maximal level for longer periods of time. This does not mean training time frames need to be increased, but rather they become more efficient. The entire point behind anabolic steroid use is to take what you’re already doing right and to simply do it better. Then we have recovery, and this is where the effects of Superdrol as with many anabolic steroids become invaluable. Recovery is where progress is made. Progress isn’t actually made in the gym when training. When training we are actually tearing our muscle tissue down, and when we recover this is where it is built, repaired and becomes stronger.

Side Effects of Superdrol:

There are possible side effects of Superdrol all users must be aware of. This is not what we’d label an unfriendly anabolic steroid, but the possible side effects of Superdol can be potentially problematic in a few key areas. Those with high cholesterol or existing liver issues must not use this anabolic steroid. If you are healthy enough for use, you will need to put in a good bit of effort into controlling these areas of your health. In order to help you understand the possible side effects of Superdrol, we have broken them down into their separate categories along with all the information you’ll need.

Estrogenic: The side effects of Superdrol do not include any of an estrogenic nature. Gynecomastia and water retention will be impossible with this steroid. An anti-estrogen is not necessary due to the use of Methyldrostanolone.

Androgenic: The side effects of Superdrol can include those of an androgenic nature. However, due to a low androgenic nature the threshold for such effects should be fairly high with most men. Possible androgenic side effects of Superdrol include acne, hair loss in those predisposed to male pattern baldness and body hair growth. These effects are highly dependent on genetic predispositions, but even if sensitive you will not be able to reduce the androgenicity of this hormone. The Methyldrostanolone hormone is not metabolized by the 5-alpha reductase enzyme making 5-alpha reductase inhibitors like Finasteride useless with this steroid.

The androgenic nature of Superdrol can also promote virilization in women. Such side effects of Superdrol include body hair growth, a deepening of the vocal chords and clitoral enlargement. Despite carrying a low androgenic nature the translating androgenic activity in women does appear to be stronger than its rating would imply. Use without virilization is possible, but it will take very low doses. Most women will find other anabolic steroids like Oxandrolone (Anavar) to be better choices. If a female athlete decides to try Superdrol, if virilization symptoms begin to show it should be discontinued immediately. If use is discontinued at the onset of symptoms they will fade away rapidly. If the symptoms are ignored and use continues, they may become irreversible.

Cardiovascular: The side effects of Superdrol in this category can be some of the most concerning of all. The Methyldrostanolone hormone can have a strong, negative impact on lipids by significantly lowering HDL cholesterol (good cholesterol) and increasing LDL cholesterol (bad cholesterol). Despite carrying no estrogenic activity, therefore no water retention, Methyltestosterone may also have a negative impact on blood pressure. However, cholesterol issues are far more likely than blood pressure, but both are possible.

Due to the possible cardiovascular issues created by Superdrol, a healthy lifestyle will be imperative. Those with high blood pressure or cholesterol should not supplement with this steroid. If you are healthy enough for use a blood pressure and cholesterol friendly lifestyle will be imperative. The individual’s diet should be rich in omega fatty acids; daily fish oil supplementation is highly advised. The individual should also strictly limit saturated fats and simple sugars and ensure he implements daily cardiovascular activity into his routine. The use of a cholesterol antioxidant supplement is also highly advised.

Testosterone: The side effects of Superdrol will include natural testosterone suppression in all men who use the steroid, and it will be significant. The use of exogenous testosterone is advised. Those who do not include exogenous testosterone of some form with their Superdrol use will place their body in a low testosterone state. The form of testosterone you choose is inconsequential, all that matters is your body receives the testosterone it needs as this hormone is essential to a healthy a properly functioning body.

Once the use of Superdrol has come to an end and all exogenous hormones have cleared the system natural testosterone production will begin again. However, levels will still be low and most are encouraged to implement a Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) program. A PCT program will stimulate natural testosterone production, which will protect your physique as well as your overall health. It will also greatly cut down the total time to recovery. A PCT plan will not return your testosterone levels back to normal on its own, this will take some time, but it will ensure you have enough testosterone for proper bodily function.

An important note on natural testosterone recovery – natural testosterone recovery assumes no damage was done to the body due to improper supplementation practices. It also assumes there was no prior existing low testosterone condition.

Hepatotoxicity: Superdol, like all C17-aa anabolic steroids, is hepatotoxic and can potentially stress and damage the liver. Use must not be undertaken if the liver isn’t healthy. During use, liver enzyme values will increase in all who use this steroid. However, an increase in liver enzyme values does not equate to damage but is rather an indicator of stress. However, it will lead to damage if possible precautions are not followed. All who supplement with Superdrol must follow the following recommendations:

No other C17-aa steroids should be used during Superdrol use.

Excess alcohol consumption must be avoided. Heavy alcohol consumption is tremendously stressful to the liver on its own, and with Superdrol use this will lead to severe liver stress and greatly exasperate the probability of liver damage. Most are encouraged to avoid all alcohol consumption during use of this steroid. Keep in mind, the only reason to use this steroid is for performance purposes, and not only will the added alcohol damage your health there is no substance as anti-performance as alcohol.

Over the counter medications should be avoided at all times when possible. Many over the counter medications are hepatotoxic, and in many cases, just as if not more than many anabolic steroids. Use should be limited to when only absolutely necessary.

Total use should not exceed eight weeks and most will find a total time frame of six weeks to be best. No C17-aa steroids including Superdrol should be used for at least 6-8 weeks post Superdrol use, and a longer time frame of no use will be healthier.

The use of a liver detoxification supplement is highly advised when using Superdrol.

If you can follow the above guidelines it will be possible to protect your liver’s health, but you will need to keep an eye on it. All who supplement with Superdrol are strongly encouraged to keep a close eye on their blood pressure, cholesterol and liver health.

Superdrol Administration:

Standard male Superdrol doses will fall in the 10-20mg per day range for 6-8 weeks. This will equate to 1-2 capsules per day taken with food. Those who enjoy a high level of toleration can consider 30mg per day their next go around with the steroid, but this is not advised for most. Doses of 30mg per day or more will greatly stress the liver and caution is strongly advised.

Superdrol stacks well with most all anabolic steroid. A simple stack of Superdrol and some form of testosterone is most common and will greatly benefit any bulking or cutting plan. During bulking phases, additional Nandrolone is a very common part of the stack, as is Trenbolone during a cutting phase. There is no reason any man could not enjoy success with such plans.

Availability of Superdrol:

Due to the compound no longer being sold over the counter the availability of Superdrol is far less than it once was. You will find some Methyldrostanolone compounds on the black market, but even here it’s not what we’d call extremely common. Due to the high availability of other anabolic steroids on the black market there’s never been a strong need for Superdrol or generic versions of this hormone on the black market.

Buy Superdrol Online - Warning:

You can buy Superdrol online, or rather a Methyldrostanolone hormone. However, it’s not commonly found like Anadrol, Dianabol, or Masteron, but it can be found. You will not, however, find the original Superdrol brand and anyone reporting to sell it is lying to you. If they actually have old bottles of true Superdrol, keep in mind it will have long since expired as it has not been manufactured in several years.

Although you may be able to buy Superdrol online, if you do so in the United States you will be breaking the law. In the U.S. anabolic androgenic steroids, now including Superdrol, are classified as Schedule III controlled substances. You must have a prescription in order to legally purchase or possess an anabolic steroid, and Superdrol or Methyldrostanolone is not a steroid you’ll ever receive a prescription for. Those who break the law will be subject to heavy fines and prison when caught.

Outside the U.S. you will find steroid laws are commonly far more lenient. You will find some places that are similarly strict, but you will find many where you can buy anabolic steroids over the counter. However, over the counter Methyldrostanolone isn’t common and most countries do not allow online purchasing.

Due to the steroid laws of the U.S. and many countries around the world, you are strongly encouraged to visit the sponsors here at Steroid.com. The sponsors here at Steroid.com can provide you with high quality anabolics without a prescription. You can legally purchase these anabolics without a prescription or fear of legal consequence.

Superdrol Reviews:

Superdrol is a decent anabolic steroid, but we would not call it superior or even “Super” as its marketing campaign once implied. What truly makes this steroid special was a group of men who recognized a hole in the steroid law and were able to capitalize on it, and in turn, make a nice profit. Due to the marketing and ease of purchase that existed for a long time, many athletes fell in love with this steroid, and it is a fine steroid, but there’s nothing magical or superior going on. Superdrol is a very basic anabolic steroid.

Superdrol Profile

2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-o

2a,17a-dimethyl-etiocholan-3-one-17b-ol

Molecular Weight: 318

Formula: C21H34O2

Manufacturer: Syntex

Effective Dose (Men): 1-2 Tablets/Day

Effective Dose (Women): Not Recommended

Half-Life: Approx. 8 Hours

Detection Time: Unknown

Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio: 400/20

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The Classic Anabolic Stack
What the Guys from the 70's Used




Among veteran bodybuilders from the so called Golden Era of the ‘60s and ‘70s, often when the topic of drug use is raised, a barrier goes up and the conversation becomes charged. The reason is that they are extremely proud of what they accomplished and do not want their success defined by drug use. That is the universal theme. Not individual amnesty, not outright denial, but protecting how future generations will view their accomplishments, their art.



Dedication, Discipline and Drive

So, harkening back to past conversations, and comments by people who claim to have been “in the know,” at that time as well as published interviews, we can “reverse engineer” much of the training and some of the drug used by classic legends. Prior to that, it is important to acknowledge that it is the same dedication, discipline and drive that creates any champion that made these men great. As fascinating and important as it is to read of their general drug use, remember their efforts, sacrifices and aspirations as their legacy.



The equipment used in gyms was evolving greatly during this time, and like any expanding field, improvements marched in side by side with the weird or dangerous techniques. The classic bodybuilders were not “specialists” as they are today. Most had a background in powerlifting; the majority had participated in sports. Older readers may recall Franco Columbu and Lou Ferrigno competing in the first World's Strongest Man competition that aired on CBS in 1977.3



The training programs were brutal, often lasting over two hours, and would have been catabolic— were it not for the support of immense quantities of protein, fat and anabolics. With the advent of bodybuilding-focused gyms, open and available throughout the day, the protocols instituted two-a-day resistance-training sessions. Powerlifting and Olympic lifting-focused gyms are slower paced, with the distraction of noise, taunting and “preening” in front of the mirror doing poses not being tolerated. You get the pleasure of a magnesium carbonate high from inhaling chalk dust instead. As the drive to become larger grew, the ambition of these men was such that they tolerated living on scarce budgets, performing menial jobs and punishing schedules to excel against their peers. And their peers were right there. The legends of that day were clustered in focused areas, many training in the same gym, alongside or within eyeshot of each other. The concentrated power of competitiveness and camaraderie charged the atmosphere. Some of this can be seen in the classic documentary, “Pumping Iron.”



Classic Legends and AAS

Just as the majority of their predecessors from the golden age of bodybuilding, and nearly all of their successors in professional bodybuilding, the classic legends used anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS), along with other drugs to achieve their superhuman form.2 This was a time when that class of drugs was not a controlled substance, teenagers were not using AAS outside of collegiate sports programs and accessibility made it widely available, so that all bodybuilders had a “level playing field.” This is not to say that it was any safer, or that bodybuilders of less than elite caliber didn’t feel compelled to use AAS if they wanted to advance as a bodybuilder, but many of the moral arguments were not present at that time. Further, the awareness of adverse effects caused most men to view these drugs with respect, monitoring dose and cycle duration closely.



Yes, these men cycled their AAS to avoid harmful changes to the liver, testes, mood, breast development and a litany of other effects that were possible in that day.4-6 A vast number of today’s professionals are always “on,” whether it be a full-out cycle or bridging, to avoid the loss of newly earned muscle. Recall that the availability of oral AAS, their rapid action on muscle/strength increases, and clearance, made them very appealing in the classic era. Some orals were great to stack in bulking cycles, and others in cutting cycles. Yet, it is oral AAS that induce cholestatic hepatotoxicity (liver damage from a “backup” of bile). Many is the time that one could tell a bodybuilder was “on” just by the yellowing of his eyes, a sign of bilirubin concentration building up in the blood. Several examples exist of classic bodybuilders falling from favor due to gynecomastia, or breast development under the nipple (i.e., “man boobs”). Effective aromatase inhibitors were not available at that time.



Short Cycles, Big Men

Most cycles were fairly short, eight to 12 weeks in duration. During this period of time, some long-acting injectable steroids would not have built up to anabolic concentrations for a few weeks. Recall too, that many men would pyramid up and down in a cycle. However, to attain early gains, many used short-acting injectables with orals to get a rapid increase in androgens, and make best use of the limited time “on cycle.” The rapid swing from low or normal testosterone, to supraphysiologic concentrations of AAS, often has negative effects on mood. As a depressive effect can occur, along with a sudden loss of strength and change in body composition with the rapid withdrawal of AAS, cycles typically ended with a tapering dose schedule.



"Off cycles" were rigorously adhered to, typically lasting the same number of weeks as the preceding cycle. Of course, there is much more to the pharmacodynamics of AAS cycling than that, but that was the common “field” experience. The men would time their cycles according to their competitive schedule. This, along with binge eating or overfeeding, led to some bodybuilders being criticized for falling into a sloppy “off-season” look. The “post-cycle” recovery was primarily dependent upon hCG, and time.7 Testicular atrophy was very common, and the return to normal size of the “boys” was often a sign of successful recovery of natural testosterone production. As opposed to today, when hCG is used during cycles to reduce/avoid testicular atrophy, it was only used post-cycle in high-dose injections. Unlike today when hCG is injected subcutaneously, it was injected into the muscle, though there is no benefit to the intramuscular shot. Clomid was used, but not all competitors were fully aware of the post-cycle benefits of this drug. Nolvadex was actually used commonly in later years, though it is not an equivalent drug for this purpose. Further, Nolvadex can aggravate gynecomastia in rare cases, especially as androgen levels fall post-cycle.



Classic Anabolic Stack

It is probably easiest to suggest what a typical AAS cycle may have looked like for the classic-era bodybuilder. Recall that hGH was very expensive, and limited in availability; insulin was not being used in bodybuilding circles with any prevalence; the more exotic growth factors were not yet developed. Realize also that in addition to the AAS, fat-cutting drugs were being used pre-competition, such as clenbuterol and Cytomel. So, with the caveat that this example of the classic anabolic stack is a general representation of only the AAS, and not the complete drug repertoire, here are two cycles. The first is an off-season cycle intended to aid in building muscle mass, while the second is a cutting cycle used in the pre-competition time frame. For further information and descriptions of these cycles, readers may find William Llewellyn’s Anabolics reference guide a valuable resource.



As you read the following, which is not advice, nor does it suggest any element of safety or moral acceptance, consider how moderate the doses of AAS were used to acquire what many feel was the pinnacle of physique development. Recall also, that the drugs only worked in the conditions of intense training and disciplined dieting, and that many of the bodybuilders of this era did experience adverse side effects. To those who claim that the pros used way more in those days, what they admit to and actually used may be two different lists. Also, the less talented were much more dependent on drug use for their gains, and likely more willing to take greater risk (as they do today).



Bulking Cycle – 10 Weeks

Sustanon 250. 1 cc, week 1; 2 cc, weeks 2-10



Dianabol, 5 mg tablet. 1 tablet daily, week 1-2; 3 tablets daily, weeks 3-8; 2 tablets daily, week 9; 1 tablet daily, week 10.



Anadrol 50. 1/2 tablet daily, week 2; 1 tablet daily, weeks 3-9.



Note: the cycle above will result in rapid weight, muscle mass and strength gains. Mood may become affected with irritability. Gynecomastia may develop or become more pronounced. Post-cycle treatment typically delayed for two to three weeks to allow longer-acting ester component of Sustanon 250 to dissipate sufficiently, to allow for hypothalamic-pituitary suppression to diminish. Changes in liver function are common with Anadrol 50 and Dianabol, and should be monitored. Skin changes (e.g., acne) will be common.



Cutting Cycle – 12 Weeks

Nandrolone phenylpropionate, 100 mg. 1 cc, week 1; 2 cc, twice weekly, weeks 2-11; 1 cc, twice weekly, week 12.



Primobolan, 100 mg. 1 cc, twice weekly, week 1; 2 cc, twice weekly, weeks 2-12.



Winstrol, 5 mg tablets. 2 tablets daily, week 1; 3 tablets, twice daily, weeks 2-12.



Note: the cycle above may cause joint soreness. Post-cycle treatment may begin within two weeks, as the phenylpropionate ester of nandrolone is much shorter acting than the decanoate ester. Liver toxicity may be experienced due to Winstrol.

Dorian's Drug Stack & the Science Behind It


The Dorian Era: the Science Behind the Stack

Though there is no longer any plausible deniability for the professionals that their natural gifts and hard work are the only factors in creating those incredulous physiques, there remains a sense of magic as to how such works of living art are created. Much like that iconic scene from “The Wizard of Oz,” six-time Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates has “pulled back” the curtain on professional bodybuilding. As he was responding to an open interview, the specifics remain clouded, but the details that can be gleaned are eye-opening.



The following relies upon Mr. Yates’ comments, but is not endorsed or confirmed by him.

In a past issue of Muscular Development, Yates discusses some of the drugs employed during his tenure as Mr. Olympia (1992-1997). In response to numerous questions, Yates has conveyed many of the tools used to achieve a physique with extremely low body fat, all the more impressive as he did so while retaining a superior amount of lean mass in comparison to most of his challengers.



Hard Work, Dedication and Genetics

First, it is critical to note that drugs being mentioned are not safe to be used outside the supervision of a qualified health professional. Though the risk is manageable, these drugs are potent and can lead to adverse effects. It is also illegal to obtain these drugs other than through a licensed pharmacy in the United States. Some are not even available via that route.



Second, though physique-enhancing drugs are the “elephant in the room,” there would be little benefit from this presumptive drug panel without providing the correct conditions. Not uncommonly, “normal” people (including bodybuilding fans) make gestures implying “pill popping” or injections behind the back of professional bodybuilders. It is not undeserved, but most pros would still be different from “normal” people based upon their genetics, discipline and extreme work ethic. So, do not forget that the drugs discussed below work for professional athletes such as Yates because the athletes have:

• The necessary desire to pursue excellence or recognition.

• Willingness to accept the risk of serious adverse effects, harm or even death from their pursuit (not unlike most elite athletes).

• Willpower sufficiently strong to maintain a lifestyle of sacrifice and pain.

• Physical gifts that allow them to train at a level not achieved by most people.

• Genetics that respond to the conditions they create.

• Resources that provide them with training facilities, drug access and dietary advice to advance toward their goals.

• A level of awareness to quickly recognize when things are “not right.”

A Lean and Dry Physique

The pre-contest drug routine Yates outlined strongly supports a lean and dry physique. As opposed to his off-season staples of relatively high-dose testosterone and nandrolone esters, along with daily Dianabol, Yates chose different anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS) during his pre-contest phase. Note, he continued to use testosterone, but lowered his dose to 300 milligrams per week. This dose agrees with the minimal threshold dose necessary for promoting muscle hypertrophy in young adult men.1



Yates did not mention the use of aromatase inhibitors— Nolvadex was more prevalent at the time— but it is likely that he reduced his testosterone dose to a minimal dose effective for his goals, and discontinued the Deca (nandrolone) and Dianabol to minimize the presence of aromatizable steroids (testosterone and Dianabol), as well as the estrogenic and progestinic stimulation evoked by nandrolone.



Water retention is also a factor with all three of his off-season AAS.2,3 The other two injectable AAS used during his pre-contest phase include Parabolan and Primobolan, two non-aromatizable AAS well known for providing a “dry” physique.4 Use of highly androgenic AAS agrees with reported observations that AAS with strong affinity for the androgen receptor also act on precursor cells such that they reduce the formation of new fat cells (adipogenesis), and reduce the effect of estrogens in existing fat cells that promote fat storage.5



Trenbolone, the steroid component of Parabolan, is capable of promoting fat loss despite not being a substrate for 5-alpha reductase (meaning it is not turned into a super-androgen like testosterone being converted into DHT); trenbolone has three times the affinity for the androgen receptor as compared to testosterone.6,7 Primobolan is a well-regarded “cutting” AAS, presumably because it does not aromatize.



Anavar (oxandrolone) was the sole oral AAS used during his pre-contest phase. Oxandrolone is regarded as a “mild” AAS, but has the same propensity for causing liver strain as other 17 alpha-alkylated oral steroids. It is remarkable that oxandrolone has been reported to decrease abdominal fat in numerous studies at a dose of 20 milligrams per day or lower; Yates reported taking 50 milligrams per day.8.9 One proposed mechanism involves increased fatty acid oxidation (fat burning) in the liver, and a resultant increase in ketone production.10



Human Growth Hormone

In addition to AAS, Yates admitted using human growth hormone (hGH), apparently utilizing hGH as an anabolic; he saw little anabolic benefit at a dose of four IU/day (within clinical replacement protocols). Two issues may account for this— anabolic effects occur at a higher threshold than the lipolytic effect; and Yates’ body mass was much so greater than the “normal” person that he likely was underdosed based on bodyweight.11 When he increased his daily hGH dose to eight IU, he noted better results, stating, “It helped kick-start me to the next level.”



hGH is thought of as a “growth” hormone, but a more pronounced and useful effect is an increase in lipolysis (breakdown of stored fat). This lipolytic effect occurs at a lower dose, which allows one to avoid the increased water retention noted at the higher doses necessary for muscle growth.12,13 Further, Yates noted that he added insulin to his regimen in 1997, presumably after six years of hGH misuse. It is not surprising that a substantial gain in size with the combination was experienced, as hGH may antagonize the anti-proteolytic (preventing muscle breakdown) effects of insulin in the muscle.14 The observation by Yates that he only experienced abdominal distension when he added insulin to his drug regimen is interesting, as hGH is usually blamed for the distended bellies seen onstage during the late 1990s. Of course, insulin has nothing to do with fat loss in a bodybuilding drug regimen, as its effect on the fat cell is the opposite— promoting fat storage.

DNP and Thyroid Hormones for Fat Loss

Three final comments were offered by Yates relevant to his fat-loss drug protocol. Two stand in contrast to the actions of some of his contemporaries; another followed the standard for that period. First, there was a wave of DNP use to facilitate a rapid and extreme fat loss among elite and recreational bodybuilders. This was due in large part to the strong following enjoyed by steroid guru Dan Duchaine. DNP is a chemical uncoupler. This means that it “disconnects” the energy-producing function from the calorie-burning function in the mitochondria of the cell.15 The cell is not getting as much energy, so it burns more calories to finally get its ATP needs fulfilled. A consequence of this is that the additional calories burned are let off as heat, raising the body temperature considerably. More than one death has been attributed to DNP use. Yates clearly stated he never used DNP, and his approach to his entire drug-support actions was one of caution and effectiveness.



Thyroid hormones, especially T3 (aka Cytomel), are effective fat burners frequently used by bodybuilders and perhaps more so by fitness competitors. Though effective at increasing the metabolic rate (boosting the number of calories burned at rest or during exercise), thyroid hormone misuse can result in long-standing suppression of natural thyroid hormone production. Additionally, the more active T3 has a narrow window, and to reach the concentration where fat loss is increased causes non-specific catabolism. This means you lose muscle faster as well.



Many bodybuilders depend upon T3 to guarantee their metabolism is not slowed by overtraining or hypocaloric diets, even with a low body fat.16 hGH given at doses similar to those reported by Yates have been shown to suppress the release of TSH (pituitary hormone) without lowering free T4 or free T3 during a 21-day trial. It is unknown if hGH protects or suppresses thyroid function over the course of months or years at the doses taken by this group of men.17 If the dose becomes elevated to an unsafe level, heart arrhythmias can occur. Though no bodybuilder has reportedly died from T3-associated arrhythmia, the risk is present. This is magnified in the presence of stimulant drugs. Yates again reported that he did not resort to the use of thyroid medications, which may explain how he was able to retain so much lean mass when he was in “show shape.”



A Mixture of Androgens, Anabolics and Agonists

The last element in his fat-loss regimen was clenbuterol, a potent and selective beta2-agonist. This means it is a very strong drug that acts on the “adrenalin” receptor involved in muscle function and the breakdown of stored fat in fat cells. Clenbuterol remains in strong demand, though the practical use of it is complex due to receptor downregulation. The anabolic effects of clenbuterol reported in animals has only been repeated in humans using doses that would be deadly if not used with a beta1-blocker to prevent a racing heart beat. Clenbuterol is in a class by itself as a stimulant weight-loss drug, and is not marketed in the United States other than the black market. Yates did not detail his clenbuterol schedule, which would have been enlightening.



Top bodybuilding physiques appear to be magical, but for those who find drug use appalling or unethical, they would be no more than illusions. Dependent upon the base of hard work, dedication and genetics, the genie in the bottle is a mixture of androgens, anabolics and agonists. One must recognize the effort and sacrifice made by these men and women, but realize the magic is not alchemy, but chemistry. Mr. Yates was frank and honest in his revelations. It should be noted that his drug use, as well as Kevin Levrone’s and Shawn Ray’s, was much simpler and more rational than the “more is better” and “anything goes” attitude espoused by those who accomplish much less. Kudos to those men for allowing us a glimpse behind the curtain.

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